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		<title>The Theist-Nontheist Conversational Smackdown of 2008</title>
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At Friends General Conference earlier this month, in addition to Robin Alpern and David Boulton's <a href="http://www.fgcquaker.org/gathering/2008/workshop/26">workshop</a> on nontheist Friends and discernment (previously posted <a href="http://www.nontheistfriends.org/article/fgc-gathering-08/">here</a>), there were a number of one-off scheduled events at the "Nontheist Friends Center," on topics like nontheistic spirituality and theological diversity. 

And in addition to those, three or four more events were arranged on-site to meet what seemed like a demand for them. I might be forgetting any that happened earlier in the week before I arrived, but Wednesday afternoon there was a meeting for worship, followed by a screening of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winstanley_(film)">film</a> about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrard Winstanley">Gerrard Winstanley</a>, who according to some was the first Quaker nontheist. 

And on Thursday, Chuck Fager arranged the following <del datetime="2008-07-17T15:21:02+00:00">debate</del> conversation between himself and David Boulton, complete with lurid posters billing it "The Theist-Nontheist Conversational Smackdown of 2008" and promising "thrills, chills and (nonviolent) spills," if memory serves. 

The questions they discussed were "Are Quakers a chosen people?" and "Is David Boulton a closet theist?" Thanks perhaps to the posters, it took place before a packed-out room of about 110 people, with a number of (un-chosen?) people listening in the hall.

Click the green "play" arrow below to hear my recording of the event, or <a href="http://www.zachalexander.com/audio/fager_boulton_smackdown.mp3"><strong>click here</strong></a>  to download the mp3 file, and look under the cut for another photo and a thought.
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(By the way, David's opening joke refers to the poster, which described the participants as Chuck "<a href="http://www.quakerbooks.org/without_apology.php">Without Apology</a>" Fager and David "<a href="http://www.quakerbooks.org/the_trouble_with_god.php">The Trouble with God</a>" Boulton.)

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